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Deanna's Daydreamer
04-06-2008, 01:50 AM
Democrats have never had a better time to take the White House... than right now; in 35 years of watching presidential politics... I can truthfully relate that. But it's more important to run a horse than can win a race... than to race off to a party for one that has hoopla and can't. The Modern Political Left in America is at a moment in time that can define a generation, and you have TWO choices in your efforts to win the White House. One choice is Barrack Hussien Obama-- a former 'community organizer' and state senator who voted 100 times 'here and present' instead of taking a stand (so much for the 'hope and change' bandwagon, Leftists)

and the other is Hillary. Conservative media pundits tell you that they'd much rather run against Hillary. I will tell you this--

SHE CAN WIN IT.

Hillary Clinton.... can beat John McCain. Reason being? She will be smarter than he is in the debates. Obama? An empty suit. He will lose and lose badly to McCain, and keep in mind that John McCain has won EVERY SINGLE RACE he has ever entered in politics, folks. He's never lost. He is actually a much stronger candidate than the far right thinks that he is.

But he's not as smart as Hillary. I will tell you leftists something, if you never tell anyone ELSE! :) Hillary Clinton... is the smartest PERSON... whom YOU HAVE SEEN... running for president... in YOUR lifetime. For every single FEMALE... in America(?) .... Hillary Clinton, like her... OR not... is the first viable and POSSIBLE... female candidate... for the presidency of the United States of AMERICA! Hillary is smarter than Bill, smarter than Obama, and smarter than McCain! And why would anyone not see it?

This woman can stand on a stage right now and ask ANY crowd one simple question-- do you remember where we were... ten years ago... right now? Government paid its bills, and the budget was balanced. The stock market was on the biggest ride upwards that it had ever seen in the century. We'd been out of wars for more than 6 years. And William Jefferson Clinton... had made MORE millionaires... out of people who had NEVER voted for him... than any president in American history! In 1998, everything was in place for America to boom like it had never done before! In 1998, America had a dollar which was rock solid and getting better every day!

And for every leftist who was looking for a reason why... a reason WHY... we are in a recession.... YET AGAIN.... less than 5 years after the last one?

FISCAL POLICY:
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/10/national/main3156418.shtml
In a 60 Minutes, the comptroller general of the Government Accountability Office, David Walker, warned that entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security are making the U.S.'s current standard of living is unsustainable. "The fact is, is that we don't face an immediate crisis. And, so people say, 'What's the problem?' The answer is, we suffer from a fiscal cancer. It is growing within us. And if we do not treat it, it could have catastrophic consequences for our country," Walker said.
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And on top of the latest unemployment news, America? By the way... we've got millions of baby boomers getting ready to retire, and we don't have the MONEY to pay them their social security, and FORGET about paying their MEDICARE!

You don't run a first time senator in this crisis, Leftists; we got a royal MESS on our hands, and we need somebody who is really smart to get us past it. Here's the WOMAN who can FIX THIS MESS:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/firstladies/hc42.html

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Huge job losses set off recession alarms By JEANNINE AVERSA, AP Economics Writer
Sat Apr 5, 12:09 PM ET

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080405/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy

It's no longer a question of recession or not. Now it's how deep and how long. Workers' pink slips stacked ever higher in March as jittery employers slashed 80,000 jobs, the most in five years, and the national unemployment rate climbed to 5.1 percent. Job losses are nearing the staggering level of a quarter-million this year in just three months.

For the third month in a row total U.S. employment rolls shrank — often a telltale sign that the economy has jolted dangerously into reverse.

At the same time, the jobless rate rose three-tenths of a percentage point, a sharp increase usually associated with times of deep economic stress.

The grim picture described by the Labor Department on Friday provided stark evidence of just how much the jobs market has buckled under the weight of the housing, credit and financial crises. Businesses and jobseekers alike are feeling the pain.

"It is now very clear that the fat lady has sung for the economic expansion. The country has slipped into a recession," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group. Indeed, there is widening agreement that the first recession since 2001 has arrived. Even Ben Bernanke, in a rare public utterance for a Federal Reserve chairman, used the "r" word, acknowledging for the first time this week that a recession was possible.

Job losses were widespread last month, hitting workers at factories, construction companies, retailers, banks, real-estate firms and even temporary-help agencies. Also mortgage brokers, hotels, computer design shops, accounting firms, architecture and engineering companies, legal services, airlines and other transportation as well as telecommunications companies.

Those cuts swamped employment gains elsewhere, including at hospitals and other heath-care sites, educational services, child day-care providers, bars and restaurants, insurance companies, museums, zoos and parks. And the government, which is almost always up.

In fact, private employers have shed jobs for four straight months, though December showed an overall gain for the economy because the government increase outweighed the private loss.

March's losses were the most since the same month in 2003, when companies were still struggling to recover from the last recession. Adding to the angst: Revised figures showed losses were actually deeper than first reported for both January and February.

All told, the economy now has lost 232,000 jobs in the first three months of this year.

On Wall Street, investors took the weak employment figures in stride. The Dow Jones industrials lost just 16.61 points, while other indexes edged higher.

All the economy's problems are forcing people and businesses to hunker down, crimping spending and hiring, a vicious cycle.

"Across the board, businesses have become very, very conservative," said Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors. More downbeat about their own sales prospects because of cautious consumers, employers are cutting back. "It only makes sense for them to run leaner if we are going into a recession or already in one" as Naroff now believes.

The new employment figures were much weaker than economists were expecting. They were anticipating a drop of 50,000 payroll jobs.

Michael Gregory, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets Economics, said the employment report was "emitting recession signals."

The national unemployment rate of 5.1 percent, relatively modest by historical standards, is nonetheless the highest since September 2005, following the devastating blows of the Gulf Coast hurricanes.

Some groups are feeling more of the strains from the economy's current woes. The unemployment rate for Hispanics, for instance, jumped to 6.9 percent in March, the highest in over four years. The rate for blacks climbed to 9 percent, a two-month high.

With the public on edge, Congress, the White House and presidential contenders are scrambling to come up with their own relief plans to stem record-high home foreclosures and stabilize housing — even as they engage in a political blame game.

Democrats want more economic assistance, including extending unemployment benefits. The Bush administration has resisted, saying the government's $168 billion stimulus package of tax rebates for people and tax breaks for businesses will be sufficient once it kicks in.

"We don't like to see one job lost, let alone 80,000," Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez said in an interview with The Associated Press. "These are challenging times," he said. Gutierrez was hopeful the economy would turn around in the second half of this year, given the relief efforts by the government and the Federal Reserve. "We'll get through this."

Democrats were skeptical of the administration's efforts.

"Our economy is spiraling downward," said presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton. "It is time for this administration to put ideology aside and get serious about stemming this crisis."

Barack Obama said, "Instead of doing nothing for out-of-work Americans, we need a second stimulus that extends unemployment insurance and helps communities that have been hit hard by this recession."

Republican John McCain said the unemployment news "underlines the need to focus on innovation, which grows the economy and creates an urgent need for effective worker retraining."

Given the worsening employment situation, the Federal Reserve probably will lower a key interest rate, now at 2.25 percent, later this month.

The Fed has taken a number of extraordinary actions recently — slashing interest rates, providing financial backing to JP Morgan's takeover of troubled Bear Stearns and opening an emergency lending program for big investment houses. All the actions were aimed at limiting damage to the national economy.

With the pace of hiring slowing, the number of unemployed people increased to 7.8 million in March.

(click above link to read more)

Scott
04-06-2008, 01:52 AM
It's just amazing how much time that you have once you become celibate don't you agree?

spinetingler
04-06-2008, 01:42 PM
04-06-2008, 12:50 AM

another Saturday night
and I ain't got nobody...

Tess
04-06-2008, 02:19 PM
I am certainly hoping that Hillary can do it. She would make a great president.

Randall's Randy Rebecca
04-06-2008, 02:46 PM
I am certainly hoping that Hillary can do it. She would make a great president.

I totally agree with you.

Verna
04-06-2008, 03:49 PM
I totally agree with you.

Me too!

I've got nothing against Obama and will definitely vote for him if he's the candidate, but I'm pulling for Clinton.

Tess
04-06-2008, 03:53 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/WFTess/rosiejpg.jpg

jumblemind
04-06-2008, 10:37 PM
Wait, wait.

This wouldn't be part of the new Operation Chaos campaign, would it?

shoetick
04-07-2008, 12:55 AM
SHE CAN WIN IT.

what he really thinks: SHE CAN'T WIN IT. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAH!!!!!!

Scott
04-07-2008, 09:37 PM
This is cool for Hillary lovers

http://politifact.com/media/travel.html

tardisrider
04-07-2008, 09:43 PM
blah blah blah



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/pootytang1/sorry_50629.gif

Carl Snow
04-07-2008, 10:06 PM
i see no positives in a Hillary Clinton Presidency ..

but

it'd be a damn sight better than the recently embalmed McCain

I like Obama's ideas-ideals quite a bit more than HRC's
( and have serious reservations re: HRC's character *see also 'stand by your "man" ' )
but should she garner the nomination, however unlikely, she will get my vote .. begrudgingly? .. yes, (lol) but she would get my vote.

it saddens me to see the Dems once again trying thier best to shoot their party in the foot ... and frightens me that we may see a Bush Clinton Bush Clinton monarchy evolve but we do , truly, reap what we sew.

i often wonder how much "good" this 2-party system does our Republic; Still , for now, it's all we have (other than throwing a vote away and/OR feeding the GOP via division)

but i'm just pissin' in the wind

i want change (not just for the bus) ... and in todays political landscape the only change (real change) will come in the form of an Obama Presidency.

( take it all w/ a grain of salt as i'm simply another citizen of this Republic with no healthcare, no insurance , and a sinking feeling in my gut )

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-08-2008, 06:38 AM
No matter WHAT happens to her? Hillary will go down in American history as the first 'viable' female presidential candidate. She's the first one

run by EITHER party

assuming a two party system, which we really do have RIGHT NOW, and that really could change over time....

but she IS the first candidate who is female... who really COULD get the nomination from a major party. Tess, I think you may have it right. Here is why. McCain's gonna want to win that war over there, and there's nothing he won't do in that effort. Don't be surprised to see GENERALS on his staff, or something like that. He is not going to withdraw troops unless the thing goes his way, and it might never do that. Hillary, on the other hand, will be somewhat like her HUSBAND, and focused more on the issues right HERE!

She might even take a page from her husband's book, and do the tax raising just as SOON as she gets in there (which he did with the gas tax) and then work toward a BALANCED BUDGET, which Bill Clinton actually HAD! [God, how it hurts a conservative like me to say that!] Hillary might make a good president because she is smart, and she is concerned totally with children, health care, jobs, and maybe even social security. Here's the deal; we can not AFFORD the wars anymore. We've got a crisis coming down on us like a freight train downhill. We are tied to the tracks and I think I hear the sound of a whistle! The reality is we have the largest generation of people in modern American history getting ready to retire in DROVES, and they will need.... they will NEED.... that social security check, and they will NEED medicare.

And mamma? We don't have the MONEY.

We're running deficits, actually.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/31/magazines/fortune/deficit_sloan.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007090417

We're running the train off the tracks, actually. We are not only... NOT prepared for the boomers retirements... we are in a total trainwreck fiscally.... ANYWAY! This country is paying ONE THIRD... of the budget... just to maintain the INTEREST... on the national debt!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/10/national/main3156418.shtml

Here's what's gonna happen. Either we can dramatically reduce the military budget, or we can INCREASE taxes on EVERYBODY, or we can screw an entire generation out of their social security and medicare benefits! That is actually.... where we are at! We are tied to the train tracks, and I think I hear the sound of a train!

The genius of Bill Clinton was that he understood the dynamics of the budget and ECON 401, which boils down to 'there is no free lunch' and stuff like that. He knew that in order to balance the budget without causing real pain to domestic programs... that he'd have to cut the military, and he did. Cut like 300 ships from the Navy; they hated him. Cut out air bases all over America; they hated him. BUT! BUT! Bill Clinton within two years as president was on his way to a balanced budget! And with the simultaneous reality that he kept us out of war? Everything began to fall into place for an ECONOMY like America had not seen in generations! And it happened. The dollar was strong because it was backed up by fiscal policy, and Wall Street began a run up like nothing I have ever seen in my life! By the time Bill Clinton's re-election campaign in 1996 began? No one could beat him.

Times were TOO GOOD! He dispatched Bob Dole, and kept on going. The FIRST TIME... that I had seen.... a democratic president... re-elected... in MY LIFETIME! The stock market run up of the mid to late 1990s was just utterly phenomenal; William Jefferson Clinton... made more millionaires... out of people who never voted for him... than any other president in American history! Crime was low, homelessnes was down, and people started to get ahead. Like the coolest rock and roll drummer I ever knew once told me-- ya know that crime bone is connected to the unemployment bone. Times were good in the mid to late 90s, and 'irrational exuberance' was NOT the only reason why; and it might have kept on going... if not for 'election jitters' which we see going on right now, and which were going on back then (May 2000 NASDAQ bust) as well. My point being that it was NO ACCIDENT. Capitalism rewards profit; if left alone and not bothered... American profit will surge upwards, but governmental FISCAL policy always matters! You can NOT... run deficits... to prosperity!

You can't get there. It's ECON 401, folks.

There IS NO free lunch.

People have forgotten that Bill Clinton actually had the government in SURPLUS when he left office! It was taking in MORE... than it paid out! It is ironic inDEED... that the modern political LEFT... had to PROVE...{and they did} that the oldtimers... among the political RIGHT... were CORRECT... about fiscal policies! And Hillary should be reminding voters of how it was when her husband was in office, and the two of them together should be claiming that they can do it again. A chicken in every pot; if we are elected... every man shall have a lighter! A beer! A lunch! WhatEVER.

Like it or not, Bill Clinton was the best thing that ever happened to the political left in modern times. Carter was a vacillating fool, and Johnson ran up the war, deficits, spending, and more. Clinton actually showed America.... that if government pays its bills, and we stay out of war?

Good times are here again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA8OmK3qslw

Bring this song back for Hillary to take the stage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xseg9DyBC40

Scott
04-08-2008, 07:25 AM
Pennsylvania ARG Apr. 6 Clinton 45% Obama 45%
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-09-2008, 08:13 AM
Got news for you leftists...

IF Hillary looses to Obama?

Then you can BET that Obama will indeed lose to McCain, and I don't give a damn WHAT poll says different.

You will have people who have NEVER VOTED in their adult LIVES coming out to register.

JUST... so they can vote... against Obama.

If and IF McCain wins? He could be on a mission in the middle east, and therefore he will be unwilling to let go of the Bush strategy of "GET THAT OIL AT ALL COSTS"

and IN that paradigm? Before ya know it?

War ESCALATES.

Momma... that's whut wars DO, actually.... a LOT of the time; check out your history books if you don't believe me. War goes from just being in Iraq and Afghanistan.... to being in Iraq, Afghanistan, IRAN, PAKISTAN, YEMEN, QATAR, KUWAIT, and then INDIA, and more.

Before ya know it? You've gone from a local war.... to a regional war, and then the NEXT step... is where the regional war............. goes to being a WORLD WAR.

You leftists have never conSIDERED... the possibility... that McCain... being an old war bird himself.... might be a nightmare president for America--- because he wants to win the NEW war....... to make up for the OLD war (Vietnam) that we didn't win!

Run HILLARY, leftists!

RUN HILLARY!

Pennsylvania voters, you have a moment in time.... to change the entire nation.

metulj
04-09-2008, 08:23 AM
Shorter DDD: Obama has a 12-inch cock and is going to fuck your white daughters after making them convert to Islam and wear burqas.

F-Stop
04-09-2008, 09:50 AM
Shorter DDD: Obama has a 12-inch cock and is going to fuck your white daughters after making them convert to Islam and wear burqas.

White daughters were "polled" and the results are "in"!

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-16-2008, 06:35 AM
I'm a conservative, truth be told-- but I'm also a capitalist.

And I want to make myself a millionaire in the stock market over the next 20 years.

I also.... don't give a DAMN about Iraq. Fine with me if the dumbass sunnis kills the shiites because I do not care. As far as I am concerned, the military has had a number of years to get it done,a nd it is time to move on.

In other words, I refuse to believe in 'war eternity' which is what the 'war against terror' seems to amount to for some conservatives. I want war to END, and I want America to get back to MAKING MONEY.... which we DO... rather nicely.... when the government has a balanced budget, and we stay OUT of wars!

But no. My 'motivation' is not to upEND the democratic party. I want democrats to run THE BEST candidate. So that America can really choose. If indeed McCain's an old war byrd? He's not only NOT going to end the war in Iraq, he might even try for war in Iran, and maybe even Pakistan as well!

If Hillary is going to roll like Bill, I am coming back to my pocketbook. I want to roll my way in the stock market, and in the world markets. I might be a candidate for walking across the line. You never know. But YES! I really DO think Hillary can win it all, and I know damn well that Obama is going to go over like a screen door on a submarine.

Less than 7 percent of society is black and male; MOST of society is caucasion AND female. Take a look off your church balcony sometime and look at all the widows. There are 51 male babies born for every 49 female babies born, but men live lives of self destruction, and die earlier than women do. A woman's immune system is stronger than a man, and has had to be... for EONS... in order to deal with any unborn baby's immune system. Women handle the stresses of life better than men do, and move on after tragedy better than men do. Therefore, there are more women alive... at any given point in time... than men. Walk around a cemetery and you can see it on the tombstones; women outLIVE men.

With Hillary? You can get SO MUCH MORE of the vote than you can with Obama.

But not only that? Jeremiah Wright has trainwrecked Obama.

I hate to say it.... but it is TRUE.

He has royally trucked up Obama's ability to win an election.

It's the COLD AND BITTER TRUTH for leftists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk&feature=related

Even if you COULD undo the damage of the reverend being an OBVIOUS black male racist, who is projecting black on caucasion racism to his all black following?

Even if you could mitigate THAT?

You can not undo the damage of his Anti American words. The reverend Wright is not only a man who hates his own country-- as far as most of America is concerned he is a man WITHOUT a country. He has stepped into a grey area, and it looks a LOT... like

HIGH TREASON to most of us.

TREASON. Think about this for a few minutes, leftists. There are literally MILLIONS... of Americans... who fly a flag on July 4th, or put their hand over their heart when the Pledge of Allegiance is said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

Or America the Beautiful. There are MILLIONS... of people... IN America... who are related to someone who has DIED in America's wars! How do you think they feel when they see Reverend Jeremiah Wright? When they see him saying, "Awe Naw Naw! God DAMN America! That's in the Bible. For killing innocent people!" It is flabberghasting. It makes jaws drop. It horrifies people! Because IN Jeremiah Wright's words? Americans who knew nothing about black churches... FINALLY GOT A CLUE. They finally saw what goes on in some or even many of them.

And what Jeremiah Wright thinks? It looks a little like TREASON

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

And that is exactly what Jeremiah Wright is. He's a traitor. He's a piece of shit, and he is hanging on Obama's leg as Obama tries to limp on down the hall. It gets worse. Jeremiah Wright will not SHUT UP. If I were advising Howard Dean I'd tell him to get someone to send that wretched fool on a 6 month sabattical to Africa. The guy is still spouting off, and every time he does it? That's good for another 30,000 caucasion independents

voting for John McCain.

The damage has been done, leftists... whether you realize it or not. It would have been pretty difficult to get a PERFECT black guy named Obama elected. It might could have been done; it might not have. IF.... Obama had a great track record, and the experience, and the charisma and all the rest. Fact is? He's been in the United States Senate for 3 lousy years or so. INEXPERIENCE... is a major knock on him. All of that would have been true BEFORE you get to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdJB-qkfUHc&feature=related

It is UNREAL how much of that he got wrong. Jesus, the historical man, was jewish; he was not black at all; he was WEST ASIAN in anthropological terms. The romans were multi cultural, and had many 'mixed' people among them. Next the reverend says that Obama does not 'fit the mold'.... and says "he ain't white" which is again completely wrong. Obama... is HALF caucasion. He is... NOT... black. He's half black and half white; his mother was white and his father was black. Again, the reverend gets it wrong; Obama is half caucasion.

This prick Jeremiah Wright has basically sent a three torpedo killshot to Obama's campaign, and the high majority of leftists in America do NOT EVEN REALISE IT!

Hillary and Bill? They already KNOW IT. Conservatives... already KNOW IT.

The only people who do not already KNOW IT.... are in the loony far left.

It would be one thing if Obama had a 20 year history in the United States Senate, and his pastor could be written off as a lunatic. It would be one thing if Obama had only been at that church for 2 years... instead of 20, folks. But he has been there more than 20 years-- by his own admission. To think that he has never heard 'this side' of reverend Jeremiah Wright? That is INSANE. Even dumb caucasion voters can figure that one out.

Your BEST chance for victory is to run Hillary domestic; run Hillary talking about jobs, saving social security, fixing medicare and health care, balancing the budget, and all the rest. You hear pundits say that the GOP would much rather run against Hillary than Obama? They are nuts. The GOP would totally rather have Obama-- because they understand American demographics. They already know the numbers that apparently Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean can't figure out. Bill Clinton already knows those numbers stack up to defeat if Obama is the nominee, and his wife does as well.

But... IF.... you run Hillary? Suddenly... you have an opening.

Then there is the third ultimate question: Will huge numbers of American women actually step up to the damn plate... and VOTE for her? That is an incredibly difficult question to answer, and I decline to say much about it... other than the fact that I've been watching presidential politics for 35 years. So my answer to that question is MAYBE. But I DO know one reality. IF... ENOUGH... American women... get fed up enough... and they actually vote Hillary, including the female voters who have been swing voters? You can run the numbers but it sends John McCain right back to Arizona.... and his ranch to retire there!

And Hillary Clinton CERTAINLY can hang with John McCain in a presidential debate.

The race with Barrack has toughened Hillary up and made her sharper, and I think she looks more presidential with every week. I think she really could be... what her classmates thought back in the 1960s-- the first female president.

Scott
04-16-2008, 07:27 AM
Do the math she has already lost Mr. Thomas.

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-16-2008, 05:52 PM
Iceberg dead ahead, democrats.

Last chance to run a winner, folks.

But since most democrats seem to want to run this dumbass from Illinois?

That's fine.

Obama is your latest Dukakis.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080416/pl_afp/usvote
There was more grim news for Clinton in a Washington Post/ABC News poll which gave Obama a 10-point lead when Democrats nationwide were asked who they would like to see go up against McCain.

Obama was up two-to-one among Democrats asked who was most electable in a general election, undermining Clinton's quest for the hearts of the superdelegates.

And more Americans had an unfavorable view of her than at any time since the Post and ABC started measuring the question, in 1992.

Some 54 percent of those asked had an unfavorable impression of the former first lady -- up from 40 percent, after her famous comeback victory in the New Hampshire primary in early January.

A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll meanwhile showed Obama up 40 percent to 35 percent in Indiana, another rust-belt primary on May 6, where she needs a win. An earlier Survey USA poll in the state however had Clinton up 16 points.

Carl Snow
04-16-2008, 06:05 PM
Obama is your latest Dukakis.


...does that make McCain "your" George W BushCo-Sock Puppet-Straw-Dog?
*sheesh*

and please .. stop this "leftist" shit. i have no idea what a leftist (or 'rightest' for that matter) is.
its not that i take any offense to it (i cant). its more that its simply a hollow word.

spinetingler
04-28-2008, 06:12 PM
And what Jeremiah Wright thinks? It looks a little like TREASON

And that is exactly what Jeremiah Wright is. He's a traitor.

You don't apparently...understand...the MEANING...


of either...tRAITOR or...


TrEaSoN

Pan
05-03-2008, 12:24 PM
For fuck's sake, DDD:

1) McCain HAS lost political races before. Remember the 2000 primary where Bush spread malicious lies about McCain's daughter in South Carolina? McCain lost that primary, didn't he?

2) Hillary Clinton is NOT Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is NOT Hillary Clinton. I'm tired of people assuming Hillary will do as prez what Bill did as prez.

3) Look up "traitor" and "treason" and then shut up about it.

4) We do realize that Fox News spreads intentional propaganda, lies and half-truths, and we recognize it as merely regurgitated crap when it spews from your pie-hole. Besides, you do realize nothing you type here makes a smidgeon of difference to those of us smart enough to vote Democrat, don't you? We all think you're an idiot, and no one takes an idiot's advice. Except for Bush, perhaps.

5) Who the hell are you talking to with this post? How many of us do you think live in Pennsylvania?

Perhaps I simply need to put you back on the ignore list...

Deanna's Daydreamer
05-05-2008, 01:06 AM
If McCain won WITHIN his own party, and became the nominee?

He has won every election he's ever been in.

He did lose out to Bush in 2000. That was not losing an election, Pan. That's losing in an attempt to BECOME the nominee of a party.

McCain has never lost an election-- EXACTLY as I said. Obama and Hillary are locked in combat to BECOME the democratic nominee. They are not in an 'election' and you need to get your facts straight.

I HAVE... looked up the definitions of traitor, and treason, and I say Reverend Wright is both a traitor and has committed high treason.

And Fox News does not dictate for me anything that I write. Go ahead, and put me on your ignore list, Pan..... and uh?

Go ahead and fuck off as well.